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it is the ancestral home of the assad's. they are a large minority in this city and they dominate the hills behind. by charlotte saw's father is buried in these hills. we were -- bashar al-assad's father is buried in these hills. we were given rare access. he died in 2000, as syria's all- powerful president. it is often his -- it is often said his son is under pressure to preserve his legacy. this town was quiet when we visited. since then, there have been reported clashes between leading families. a measure of growing unease over their place in syria's troubled future. this region is still regarded as the president boss last lastbt -- president's redoubt. but war has reached part of this area. amateur video claims to show destruction in the community toward the turkish border. rebels now control some villages. the war is often described as a sectarian conflict. this man wants his identity hidden. he has long been in opposition. does he see it as a sectarian war? >> of course it is not. this is the work of the regime. from t
it is the ancestral home of the assad's. they are a large minority in this city and they dominate the hills behind. by charlotte saw's father is buried in these hills. we were -- bashar al-assad's father is buried in these hills. we were given rare access. he died in 2000, as syria's all- powerful president. it is often his -- it is often said his son is under pressure to preserve his legacy. this town was quiet when we visited. since then, there have been reported clashes between leading...
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after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n., that bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the numentd u.n. and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months nmaking sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks, the injuredanians and the s
after international pressure mounted, then president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people. and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on, the more... people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with our allirks the turk, the saudis, had we had a better plan, working through our allies. but, no,...
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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly. what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >> what is the national security of the american people? it has to be in the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national sec
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq,...
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president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n., giving veto power to the u.n., and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. biden: he never answered the question. ryan: we would not be going to the u.n.. biden: you don't go through the u.n.. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid swells -- as well as other aid and training are getting to the forces that the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside the syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page, nato as well as our arab allies, in terms of trying to get a settlemen
president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n.,...
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we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkemularkey. not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. an this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend is talking about he
we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due...
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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power, and meanwhile 30,000 syrians dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jor deignians believe, the saudis believe are the free force inside of syria. that is under way. our allies were all on the same page-- nato as well as our arab allies in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we're the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan, what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power, and meanwhile 30,000 syrians dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jor...
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iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. president obama would have you believe anyone who disagrees with the decisions in afghanistan is arguing for endless war. but the route to war and to potential attacks at home is a politically timed retreat that abandons the afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. i will look at conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of military commanders and affirm that my duty isn't to protect my political prospects but to protect the security of the nation. finally, i will recommit america to the goal of a prosperous palesti
iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014....
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then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we gave russia veto power. and meanwhile about 30,000 sirrians are dead. >> biden: what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question -- >> ryan: no we would not be going through the un -- >> biden: you don't go through the un. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help humanitarian aide and other aide and training that we believe, the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside of syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page. nato as well as o
then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we...
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then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we gave russia veto power. and meanwhile about 30,000 sirrians are dead. >> biden: what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question -- >> ryan: no, we would not be going through the un -- >> biden: you don't go through the un. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help humanitarian aide and other aide and training that we believe, the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside of syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page. nato as well as
then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we...
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when it comes to syria, assad does need to go. we need to work with moderates in opposition and provide them with military hardware and support financially so they can do battle. the citizens there, they had -- they are being slaughtered by the thousands. when it comes to libya, i thought what happened there is unacceptable. i thought the handling of it was unacceptable. we need to have a full and immediate investigation to make sure we find out what happened. more importantly, iran, my opponents said earlier we need a nuanced approach. there is no such thing. there is only one person who will stand with israel. >> another 30 seconds. >> i have three older brothers, all of whom served in the military. my oldest brother was career military. he served in vietnam. i have some sense of not only capable theyd a b are. that is why i believe the best we can do for our military is be very careful and thoughtful about when we ask them to vote -- to go to war. we need to have clear objectives. we need to know what our plan is and how we pla
when it comes to syria, assad does need to go. we need to work with moderates in opposition and provide them with military hardware and support financially so they can do battle. the citizens there, they had -- they are being slaughtered by the thousands. when it comes to libya, i thought what happened there is unacceptable. i thought the handling of it was unacceptable. we need to have a full and immediate investigation to make sure we find out what happened. more importantly, iran, my...
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in syria the assad regime continues to wage war against it's own people even as territory slips from its graps. i recently announced humanitarian aid for the humanitarian opposition and we remain committed with our partners to increase pressure on the regime. and in yemen where we supported negotiations that achieved a transition, we are working to prevent al qaeda from threatening these emerging fradge jill democratic institutions and prevebt them from finding a save hivepb to launch attacks. when i met with the king of jordan last month we discussed continuing reforms to move his country toward more democracy and property. so in all of these places and many others, the united states is helping the people of those nations chart their own decemberty anies and realize the full measure of their own human dignity. dignity is a word that means many things to different people in can cull chures but it does speak to something universe until all of us. as one egyptian observed freedom and dignity are more important than food and water. when you eat in humiliation, you can't taste the food.
in syria the assad regime continues to wage war against it's own people even as territory slips from its graps. i recently announced humanitarian aid for the humanitarian opposition and we remain committed with our partners to increase pressure on the regime. and in yemen where we supported negotiations that achieved a transition, we are working to prevent al qaeda from threatening these emerging fradge jill democratic institutions and prevebt them from finding a save hivepb to launch attacks....
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we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> thank hechks we had these sanctions in place. >> what more would they do other than put american boots to the ground. >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria. >> we are leaving in 2014, period. >> we agree with the administration on their 2014 transition. >> michael, what did you make of this? >> when i saw paul ryan talk about afghanistan, it was like watching bambi on ice. it's like he had a boy scout capping p trip there once and saw the mountains and thought he was an expert. look, very specifically. this is -- ryan got really tripped up on afghanistan
we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >>...
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and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what exactly happened and that includes congressman jason chaffetz who just returned from libya. he'll join me live and tell me what he discovered next. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management >>> it has been almost a month now since four americans were killed in libya, u.s. ambassador chris stevens, foreign service o
and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what...
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ryan: to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that, but he failed to achieve that as well. again. >> moderator: what's your criteria for intervention? biden: yeah. ryan: in syria? >> moderator: worldwide. ryan: what is in the national interests of the american people. it's got to be in the strategic national interests of our country. >> moderator: no humanitarian? ryan: each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national security interests of the american people. >> moderator: i want to -- we're almost out of time. ryan: things like embargoes and sanctions and overflights, those are things that don't put american troops on the ground. but if you're talking about putting american troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> moderator: i want to move
ryan: to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that, but he failed to achieve that as well. again. >> moderator: what's your criteria for intervention? biden: yeah. ryan: in syria? >> moderator: worldwide. ryan: what is in the national interests of the american people. it's got to be in the strategic national interests of our...
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i had personal conversations with president bashar al-assad a couple of years ago about getting a new facility. do we have the task force that is looking at providing the said that we need to provide that level of protection and to relocate some of these embassies? >> we do, sir. we have a strategic plan. we know which embassies are more endangered than others. we're working through that. there are limitations on offense. i can only construct so many new facilities each -- there are limitations on affianced. i can only instruct so many new facilities. >> in addition to the security team, there was a rapid response force that was located in the next -- annex. how many are in that rapid reform -- rapid response task force? >> serve, there were seven and their job was also to -- >> point of order. >> i would renew my concern that we're getting into an area that is classified and should be classified. dealing with the map is one issue. the markings on the map were terribly inappropriate. the activities there could cost lives. >> on the point of order -- >> may i speak on the point of orde
i had personal conversations with president bashar al-assad a couple of years ago about getting a new facility. do we have the task force that is looking at providing the said that we need to provide that level of protection and to relocate some of these embassies? >> we do, sir. we have a strategic plan. we know which embassies are more endangered than others. we're working through that. there are limitations on offense. i can only construct so many new facilities each -- there are...
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and in reference to bashar al assad. many of the members of congress of both parties she said have gone it syria in recent months said they believe he's a reformer. now, of both parties. and you to remember something about bashar al assad about the uprising against him in the year 2000, 2001 when he took over from his father, he was viewed as potentially a reformer by many people in western countries. clearly in the last 19 months this notion that in any way he's a reformer has gone out the window. >> 30 seconds, point of contention, that why the u.s. stepped in in libya but not in syria? >> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential deb
and in reference to bashar al assad. many of the members of congress of both parties she said have gone it syria in recent months said they believe he's a reformer. now, of both parties. and you to remember something about bashar al assad about the uprising against him in the year 2000, 2001 when he took over from his father, he was viewed as potentially a reformer by many people in western countries. clearly in the last 19 months this notion that in any way he's a reformer has gone out the...
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if bashar al-assad leaves you have a continuin civil war between the local rebels who want democracy and the jihaddists who want an islamist state. bill: leland vittert live. martha: $716 billion question. governor romney's campaign has said repeatedly that the president plans to cut $716 billion from medicare. >> medicare for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. now he says by not over paying hospitals and proceed sraoeursd, actuallproviders. going to hem them and saying we're going to reduce the rates across the board. that is not cutting the rates where there is abuse that's just cutting the rates. >> the obama campaignlaims that is not through. jim angle is live from washington to help us court it all out. >> reporter: as you showed, martha, governor romney insists the president cut 716 billion from medicare while the president argues he saved 716 billion east said during the debate. >> $716 billion we were able to save from the medicare program by no longer over paying insurance companies, by making sure that we weren't over paying providers. >> reporter
if bashar al-assad leaves you have a continuin civil war between the local rebels who want democracy and the jihaddists who want an islamist state. bill: leland vittert live. martha: $716 billion question. governor romney's campaign has said repeatedly that the president plans to cut $716 billion from medicare. >> medicare for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. now he says by not over paying hospitals and proceed sraoeursd, actuallproviders. going to hem them...
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oh assad is going to fall. do you know how long we have been saying that now? how many thousands will it take before assad falls, how many dead, wounded and injured men, women and children? and we are saying he is going to fall. yeah in the long run we are all dead. it does improve a thing. it just highlights the inconsistencies of what the administration is saying. i couldn't have said it better than the way it was just said. on iran, working with the congress, of course they are working with the congress because they had to. congress forced the sanctions on them and guess there has been a reduction in oil imports but the whole idea of the zero oil imports, that is not happen. and the question is, why not? mr. romney has said, i want to zero out the oil imports. now, the other point, we are going to do it on our own? we never said we were going to do it on our own. on the contrary what mr. romney has said we are going to work with their allies in the way that this administration is not. he doesn't plan to wake up the polish foreign minister in the middle of th
oh assad is going to fall. do you know how long we have been saying that now? how many thousands will it take before assad falls, how many dead, wounded and injured men, women and children? and we are saying he is going to fall. yeah in the long run we are all dead. it does improve a thing. it just highlights the inconsistencies of what the administration is saying. i couldn't have said it better than the way it was just said. on iran, working with the congress, of course they are working with...
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the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a substantial way inside the country? this is still talk. you're still talking about vetting groups. we're months away from identifying groups that will be armed in a sort of -- in a way that can help them fight against the regime that is extremely militaryized. >> what about syria? you have sources in syria and one line that stood out to me, mitt romney quoting a syrian woman saying we'll never forget that you forget us, but that the u.s. is forgetting syria. what do syrians tell you? >> what syrians say, those who are on the side of the anti-regime movement, and those who suppo
the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a...
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i had come rescissions' with assad about getting a new facility there. do we have a task force that is looking at providing the setback that we need to provide that level of protection and to relocate some of these embassies? >> we do, sir. we have a strategic plan. we know which indices are more in danger than others. we are working through that. but there are limitations on funds. i can only construct some any new facilities each year depending on the funds i have available to me. >> i want to go back to one. . your written testimony, page 2 first paragraph, in addition to the security team you have there, i think you described it as a rapid response force that was located in the amex. how many folks are in that rapid? do you know how many are in that rapid response task force were team? >> there were seven. -- >> point of order. >> i am worried that we are getting into an area that is classified and should be classified. dealing with the map is one issue. i believe that the markings on that map were terribly inappropriate. the activity there could cos
i had come rescissions' with assad about getting a new facility there. do we have a task force that is looking at providing the setback that we need to provide that level of protection and to relocate some of these embassies? >> we do, sir. we have a strategic plan. we know which indices are more in danger than others. we are working through that. but there are limitations on funds. i can only construct some any new facilities each year depending on the funds i have available to me....
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you saw in libya and in iran's pursuit of the nuclear weapon and assad willingness to shoot down rebels. romney took that on directly. >> steve: here is the response to rom romm's. president obama has shown he is tough and responsible and steady commander-in-chief. mitt romney shows he would be the exact opposite. behind the tough talk he is erratic and unsteady and irresponsible on his audition in the world stage. would you agree with that. >> of course not. they can say over and over again. especially when romney talks about not setting a time limit. >> brian: let me bring you to afghanistan real quick before we run out of time. a reporter came out in a speech in washington and said the administration has been lying and there is a narrative coming out of the washington that is nonsense. she got out of afghanistan like you d and she said the taliban is gaining strength and we are not told the truth. that is a farrah phrase for word and that is her position. is it yours. >> the taliban is gaining strength and there is a narrative from administration. i want the narrative to be progress
you saw in libya and in iran's pursuit of the nuclear weapon and assad willingness to shoot down rebels. romney took that on directly. >> steve: here is the response to rom romm's. president obama has shown he is tough and responsible and steady commander-in-chief. mitt romney shows he would be the exact opposite. behind the tough talk he is erratic and unsteady and irresponsible on his audition in the world stage. would you agree with that. >> of course not. they can say over and...
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it has shown it has shown once again as assad's father did, now there are foreign fighters there are so-called jihadis that are coming to the country from rareas areas in the midst of the turmoil but by and large, and i was there a couple of week ago, i met with rep seb tis of and they are all vowing that it is, it is prop gan gada from the syrian government to suggest these are all al qaeda fighters and not in fact completely demoralized and, and now turning to violent citizens of the syrian, the republic. margaret is in kansas on democrat's line. hi, margaret. >> caller: good morning. i have been watching this with extreme unbelievable upsetness. it gets so little coverage. we have some coverage until, you know, journalists are getting killed then i have to watch bbc. i mean, it is ridiculous what is on our news. so i wrote a short poem, i will read it to "crimes against humanity: sins of omission delay and humanitarian rescues, body counts, mine count, witness to extreme suffering, leadership needed, if not indeed, in words, shouts them loud as the bomb, silence is lee that, syria
it has shown it has shown once again as assad's father did, now there are foreign fighters there are so-called jihadis that are coming to the country from rareas areas in the midst of the turmoil but by and large, and i was there a couple of week ago, i met with rep seb tis of and they are all vowing that it is, it is prop gan gada from the syrian government to suggest these are all al qaeda fighters and not in fact completely demoralized and, and now turning to violent citizens of the syrian,...